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| plasmo |
 Zaslal: čt září 06, 2012 8:50 am |
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Založen: 11.8.2012
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Ahoj,
rád bych si sám upravil svoje auto pro použití ethanolu. Nechci používat čínský s***e a rád bych to nastavil přímo v ŘJ motoru. Máte někdo zkušenosti s tím o kolik musím cca přidat na vstřiku atd? Děkuji za pomoc
Mám 1.8T AUQ koktu 
PS: názory stylu jak je e85 špatná atd... mě vůbec nezajímají, takže prosím kdo nemá co k mé otázce, tak se zdržte komentáře a nespamujte tohle vlákno
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| martin |
| Zaslal: čt září 06, 2012 9:50 am |
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We've had a few reports where users could not “nail down” their tune on the street with the LM-1. The AFR's would jump about 0.5 AFR across the WOT band even in the same weather conditions in the space of a few days. Instead of holding a tune, the engine seemed to slowly “yodel.”
Naturally the first thing to blame was the LM-1. But it turned out that the users filled up at different gas stations, sometimes filling up on gas that had 10% ethanol mixed in. As expected, when Schnapps is mixed with cars, things get a little complicated.
If ethanol (stoich AFR of 9) is mixed with gasoline (stoich AFR of 14.7) the resulting gas has a lower stoich AFR than 'pure' gasoline. As the fuel injection is tuned to mix a certain amount of fuel for a given amount of air, the resulting mixture would be leaner when using a fuel with lower stoich AFR.
This can be calculated:
sAFR = (%ofAdditive * sAFRadditive + (90-%ofAdditive) * sAFRgas) /100
where:
sAFR is resulting stoich AFR
%ofAdditive is amount in % of mass of additive (ethanol) mixed in
sAFRadditive is stoich AFR of additive (9 for ethanol)
sAFRgas is stoich AFR of base gasoline (14.7)
For a 10% mixture of ethanol to gasoline by mass the resulting stoich AFR is 14.13
So, for an engine that's tuned to certain AFR at a certain load and RPM on straight gas, the resulting (gasoline equivalent) AFR when running the mixture can be calculated as:
new AFR = tuned gas AFR * (gasoline stoich ratio) / blend stoich ratio
An engine tuned to 12.5 gas AFR will run at the equivalent of 13 gas AFR with a 10% ethanol blend. This is what these people were seeing.
Of course, when running in closed loop, the engine will run at 14.13 AFR instead of 14.7. O2 sensors (incl. widebands) don’t measure AFR, but Lambda. Lambda is defined as actual AFR/stoich AFR. It's a ratio. In closed loop part throttle the engine is just running at Lambda 1.0, regardless of fuel. The same would be true for other Lambda values when running closed loop at WOT using a wideband. The engine would run at the tuned Lambda and everything would be fine. Open loop systems would need to be retuned for alcohol blends though.
Tolik k tomu říká innovate morsport 
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| Zaslal: čt září 06, 2012 10:18 am |
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Založen: 11.8.2012
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A dá se nějak zakouzlit s lambdou aby šla dolů spotřeba?
ježiš  teď to ještě přelouskat, ale děkuji za pomoc, až se mi dostane do ruky kabel začnu testovat, případně napíšu
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